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May 6, 2025

Lessons from a Legend

Tom Cock takes the mic solo (with Don recovering from a “procedure”) and brings in advisor Roxy Butner for a special live episode. They reflect on Warren Buffett’s decision to retire in 2025, discussing lessons from his value investing strategy and massive cash holdings. Listener questions roll in on topics like compound interest assumptions, the risks of holding company stock, ETF mechanics, and how best to diversify for retirement. They also recommend the YouTube documentary Tune Out the Noise...
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May 5, 2025

Money Lessons That Matter

Don and Tom get real about the most important lessons every young person should learn about money—before life (and bad decisions) get in the way. From money values to compound interest, tax realities to the unpredictability of markets, they each offer a list of financial truths no teen should graduate without. Along the way, they drop stories from their own lives, take questions from listeners, and somehow end up discussing soccer (and why Don still doesn’t get it). 0:04 Back to basics: What you...
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May 1, 2025

All Questions, No Dumb Ones

Don records this Q&A episode a bit early—right before heart surgery—to make sure listeners don’t miss their Friday dose. He kicks off with a listener confused by a boilerplate $50 foreign stock fee warning on a Fidelity Zero fund (spoiler: it doesn’t apply). Another caller is teetering on the edge of retirement viability with $500K, pensions, and Social Security—Don offers honest thoughts on withdrawal flexibility and why waiting on SSI might be wise. Then comes a takedown of Wealthfront’s direc...
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May 1, 2025

Modern Money Myths Meet Their Match

On this myth-busting episode of Talking Real Money, Don and Tom tackle persistent financial fables that sound logical but often lead investors astray. With help from a Kiplinger list and their own experience, they dissect myths around mortgage payoff returns, Roth conversions, Social Security fears, withdrawal rules, and tax refunds—plus three bonus myths that still haunt conversations today. Along the way, Don shares his own recent experience filing for Social Security online (spoiler: it was s...
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April 30, 2025

Scares, Stockpiles and Smart Planning

Tariffs, fear, and stockpiling—oh my! Don and Tom break down how consumer sentiment, not just consumer spending, is shifting dramatically under the weight of tariff uncertainty. They connect behavioral shifts—like Googling “recession” and panic-buying tires—to bigger economic signals and what it all means for investors. From the role of emergency savings to the misleading pitch of indexed annuities, they dismantle hype and stress the importance of sticking to a real plan. They also field smart q...
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April 29, 2025

Your Brain’s Investing Mistakes

Our memories—and sometimes our parents'—shape how we invest, often more than logic or data. Don and Tom break down how generational financial trauma, recent market trends, and asset class myths (like gold and U.S.-only investing) skew our thinking. They call out flawed stock picking contests, revisit the real long-term returns on gold versus stocks, and explain why short-term memory leads to bad long-term decisions. Listener questions hit everything from where to park house savings to bond fu...
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April 28, 2025

Leverage: Fast Fortune or Failure

Don and Tom dive into the seductive but dangerous world of leverage, starting with real estate and quickly moving into the even riskier territory of leveraged ETFs. They explain how leverage magnifies both gains and devastating losses, using real-world examples like the Direction 3X Treasury Bull and Bear funds, which either crushed or annihilated investor money. They caution listeners that these “extra touchy” funds are pure speculation, not investing, and explain why most people should stay fa...
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April 25, 2025

More Raised Hands

In this listener Q&A episode, Don dives into some powerful topics—from calling out the sales-driven heart of the financial services industry to explaining how bond index funds are built and breaking down the tax realities of non-retirement brokerage accounts. A caller wrestles with guilt over a bad annuity recommendation for a dying relative, prompting a raw conversation about the system’s moral middle ground. Don shares his own early days as a product peddler, highlights red flags to look for i...
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April 24, 2025

Gold Doesn't Work–Your Money Should

Gold is back in the headlines, but should it be in your portfolio? Don and Tom take a fresh (and frequently hilarious) look at the shiny metal that never seems to deliver. From Fort Knox to Costco’s gold bar rush, they trace gold’s lackluster long-term returns and its overhyped reputation as a hedge. They break down why physical gold fails as an investment, why GLD is better (but still meh), and why long-term investors might already have enough exposure through diversified funds. Plus: a Medicar...
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April 23, 2025

The Best New Strategy is Old

When markets get bumpy, emotions take the wheel—and that’s exactly why Don spends this solo episode reminding listeners that logic, evidence, and simplicity still win in the long run. He digs into why private investments aren't the magic they claim to be (even when Vanguard jumps in), why diversification still beats sexy strategies, and how the best “alternative” to bad investing is simply building a solid plan and sticking to it. Listener calls explore structured products, the Sharpe ratio, rev...
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April 22, 2025

Less Risk Can Cost More

Don flies solo on this episode of Talking Real Money, fielding calls and calling out the nonsense in fancy investment gimmicks. From market-neutral funds to buffered ETFs, he lays out the case for simplicity, diversification, and discipline over complexity and high fees. Along the way, he compares real-world returns of flashy funds to the humble Vanguard Balanced Index, explains the math behind risk and reward, and gently teases listeners dabbling in covered calls and premium farming. With real ...
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April 21, 2025

Wall Street Wants You Scared

In this episode of Talking Real Money, Don McDonald and Tom Cock discuss practical strategies for navigating recessions without panic or unnecessary market timing. They critique the constant, fear-driven speculation around economic downturns and emphasize maintaining a disciplined, long-term approach. Highlighting actual investor behavior from Dalbar studies, they explain why market timing almost always results in poorer returns. Tom humorously criticizes aggressive pickup truck drivers and touc...
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April 16, 2025

Your Proper Risk

Don and Tom explore the role of risk, resilience, and rational investing as they tackle stock market uncertainty, Roth conversion confusion, and Robinhood’s attempt to lure new users. They mix in practical advice with plenty of caller questions—plus a detour into air-dried laundry, social media skepticism, and an appreciation for the film Tune Out the Noise. It's Talking Real Money in its purest form: smart, skeptical, and occasionally funny. 0:04 Intro: Making money more understandable 1:09 Tom...
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April 15, 2025

A Wild Ride

Wild market swings, political chaos, and investor confusion set the stage for this episode. Don and Tom break down the emotional impact of volatility, the myths of market timing, and the wisdom in sticking to long-term plans. With insights from Jason Zweig and some smart listener Q&A, they remind us that discipline—not prediction—is what builds wealth, even in uncertain times. 0:01 Intro with the 'interesting times' curse and the current market confusion 0:48 S&P 500 drops 10.5% in two days, bou...
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April 14, 2025

A Fool and His Money...

In this classic swirl of candor, humor, and financial sense, Don and Tom tackle the human habit of financial foolishness—from betting big on speculative ETFs to ignoring global diversification. They call out the irony of investment products like ELON, roast the current state of the Motley Fool, and offer real-world perspective on international investing, market timing myths, and retirement portfolio design. They even sprinkle in a few thesaurus gems for good measure. 0:04 Welcome and warning: th...
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April 11, 2025

Q'in' and A'in'

It’s a full-on Q&A Friday as Don tackles listener questions on account consolidation, fund choices, proper bond allocation, and portfolio construction. From dissecting the merits of AVGE vs. DFAW vs. VT+AVUV, to helping federal employees estimate how much to save, and even clearing up confusion about average returns—this episode is a masterclass in real-world investing for every phase of life. Whether you’re building your portfolio, nearing retirement, or just trying to clean up a financial mish...
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April 11, 2025

Talking Real Rules

Don and Tom put popular retirement rules of thumb under the microscope—testing everything from the 4% withdrawal rule to the idea of downsizing your home in retirement. With equal parts logic and skepticism, they explore whether these oft-repeated guidelines still hold up in today's financial landscape. Along the way, they touch on portfolio construction, social security timing (with Don’s real-life dilemma), and why rules are made to be... at least bent. Plus, a few listener questions round out...
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April 9, 2025

Tariffs Feed Inflation

This episode dives deep into the market’s latest mood swing and the potential impact of new tariffs on consumer costs—like the real price of your next iPhone. Don and Tom explain what tariffs are, how they work, and why they’re likely to fuel inflation. Plus, they tackle a range of listener questions, from the risks of fixed-income annuities and rebalancing portfolios, to why bonds (yes, still) deserve a place in your portfolio. And of course, they throw shade at both annuity commissions and sel...
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April 8, 2025

Ups and Downs

In this episode, Don and Tom address the market’s recent correction—without ever saying the “D-word.” They explain how global diversification cushions the blow, why balanced portfolios aren’t as battered as headlines suggest, and how reacting emotionally is the real danger. They also dive into classic investing mistakes, like stock concentration and chasing headlines, and share guidance on rebalancing thresholds. Listener questions include when to rebalance, how to strategically tap accounts in ...
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April 7, 2025

Inviolate Investments

In this episode of Talking Real Money, Don and Tom sound the alarm on a troubling trend: more people are dipping into their 401(k)s for emergencies. While hardship withdrawals are allowed under IRS rules, they come with serious penalties, taxes, and long-term setbacks. The hosts stress the importance of building an emergency fund before maxing out retirement contributions to avoid turning your future into a piggy bank. They also respond to questions about how to find fiduciary advisors and criti...
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April 4, 2025

Capital Queries

It’s Q&A Day on Talking Real Money, and Don tackles listener questions on everything from crypto and REITs to emergency funds and IRA contributions. He reiterates his firm stance against crypto as an investment, warns about the risks of individual REITs, and supports diversified REIT funds for long-term portfolios. Don also confirms that yes, you can contribute to a Roth for 2024 and a traditional IRA for 2025 in the same calendar year, as long as you stay within annual limits. Emergency cash? A...
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April 3, 2025

Wait Long Enough?

In this episode of Talking Real Money, Don and Tom dive deep into the question of whether long-term investing in stocks truly guarantees returns. Challenging the conventional wisdom, they examine research by Professor Edward McQuarrie that reveals 10- and even 30-year periods in U.S. and international markets where investors lost money—especially when adjusting for inflation. Despite these sobering findings, the hosts reaffirm their belief in equity markets, emphasizing diversification and the h...
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April 2, 2025

The Rich Half

At Talking Real Money, we emphasize fundamental financial principles like disciplined saving, diversification, and cautious investing—highlighted this episode through insights on wealth distribution in America, noting that successful financial outcomes depend heavily on diligent saving and investing, particularly in equities, businesses, and real estate. We caution against chasing high-dividend stocks, explaining their risks and why they're often poor investment choices compared to a broadly div...
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April 1, 2025

Hedge Secrets?

At Talking Real Money, we’re here to reinforce core investing principles: diversify, plan carefully, and never attempt to predict market swings—a point underscored by famed hedge fund manager Ray Dalio, who advocates holding multiple uncorrelated asset classes rather than timing market downturns. Dalio warns of economic shocks comparable to past crises like the dot-com bust but emphasizes preparation, not prediction, urging investors to diversify across stocks and bonds to mitigate volatility. W...
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