SEATTLE not Beating the Market?

We recently discussed the Seattle Times reporting on the Seattle City Pension Plan and badly it has performed over the past ten years leaving the pension a billion dollars short of what it need to meet its obligations. We suggested they save a fortune and improve their perfomance potential by using index funds.

It seems that Seattle Times readers had the same suggestion so the Seattle Times reporter shared that suggestion with the plans chief investment officer, Jason Malinowski. He responded by stating that passive investments made up 34% of the SCERS plan, but defended the hiring of active managers “if the particular market segment is believed to be less efficiently priced.” He cited emerging markets as an example of inefficient markets.

So, we decied to see if some of the best active fund managers showed enough skill in picking emerging markets stocks to justify their higher fees, comparing the with a passive portfolio from Dimensional Funds.

Here's the chart of the 15-year average annual figures from Morningstar.

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How to Vet Your Adviser

As the investing advice industry moves from commission-based to fee-based, you need to be even more careful about who you choose. Thankfully, fee-based advisers must register with the Securities and Exchange Commission and my file an annual "plain-english" disclosure document call the Form ADV Part Two brochure.

You can find every registered investment adviser's (RIA) ADV online at:

To search for your adviser click on the "firm" button and type in the firm's name (for example; Merrill Lynch). The larger firms often have many RIAs filed (Merrill's client service is buried on page two). Then find the plan you've been pitched (the big firm's have several) and head right to the fee section (it's in the table of contents). Finally, click on "Part 2 Brochures" in the left column:

In this case, we chose the "Merrill Lynch Investment Advisory Program." The fees are spelled out on page 16 of this 43 page document:

If you have less than $1 million being managed by Merrill in this account, the total annual fee charged will run over 3% per year. What a fee that high means is that your Merrill advisor would need to beat the market consistently by an average of 3% every year, forever, or provide a level of services that are the price of a decent car every year (for those with $1 million or more invested).

In the spirit of fairness and for comparison purposes, here is the fee section from Vestory's (our RIA firm) Form ADV Part Two brochure:

Like other Merrill and others, we use mutual funds – in our case, Vanguard, Schwab, and Dimensional Funds – to create our individualized investment portfolios. Yet, we are able to charge exactly 1/3 the amount Merrill Lynch charges for investment management and our fund (manager) expenses average just under 0.4% annually.

Let's assume a $1 million dollar portfolio with mutual fund or "style manager" expenses of 0.4% annually, invested in identical portfolios averaging a 7% gross return per year. How much difference do fees make over 20 years:

The person paying RIA fees of 2.7% per year would have almost $2.4 million.

While the one paying an annual fee of 0.9% per year would have just under $3.4 million.

Fees matter, to the tune of one million dollars. Is friendship or even a family relationship worth that much?

Gifts That Keep Giving

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Pay Less, Get More?

Is it possible to get the ongoing service of a dedicated fiduciary fee-only advisor and make more than working with a commissioned salesperson? In many cases, the answer is yes.

This chart illustrates the difference between a very typical broker-sold mutual fund and Vestory's Focus Global 100% Equity portfolio assuming both portfolios returned 8% gross (before fees) every year for 20 years. Here are details on the two funds:

Oppenheimer Global A
oad: 5.75%
Annual fees: 1.14%

Vestory Focus 100% Global Equity
Load: none
Annual fees: 1.32% (includes advisory fee)

$10,000 invested from 20 years at hypothetical 8% average annual gross return (before fees and commissions) Results are for illustration only and do not represnet actual investments. Vestory's account minimum is typically $250,000.

Delusional Salespeople

Yesterday, I posted a peice in our online newsletter, Vestories, pointing to a Bloomberg investigative article on the evil perpetrated, on those rolling over 401k plans, by many in the financial sales industry. The report points out that far too many of those who claim to be investment advisors are nothing more than slightly greedy, poorly informed product pushers for giant firms like AIG, UBS, and Met Life.

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Sources of Sage Advice

Why do we seek out bad advice promulgated by most of the money media? We want to know the unknowable. So, where do those who know that knowing the unknowable (the future, for instance) can’t be known (that was fun to write) turn for helpful financial and investing advice?

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Other Advisors - Seattle

There are far too many bad investment advisors out there. We believe that we are one of a very few firms who take their responsibility to you as seriously as it should, but we are not the only ones. Here are a few in Seattle area that manage money in a similarly responsible fashion.

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A Better Retirement Plan

Tom and Don will analyze some select 401k, 403b, and 457 plans, at no cost and with NO obligation, help you find the best choices and learn how to use them to build the best possible retirement portfolio.

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First show done.

Now that opening day jitters are out of the way, we are ready to move forward with the best financial advice show on the radio.

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